Ellen DeGeneres And Portia De Rossi Go Vegan
Going vegan is HARD! I tried it for a while and had a nervous break down in the middle of a Turkish restaurant because I couldn't tell if my rice was cooked with butter or oil. I was crying so hard, we actually had to LEAVE the place.
It really is a true life change. You don't realize how many items we consume that are connected to animals... unless you stop and think about it. Since then, I haven't had eggs, yogurt, milk or raw cheese. I've also severely limited my intake of cooked products... but that's very hard to do when everything has egg or butter in it! Like I said... I was unsuccessful at accomplishing this.
Ellen DeGeneres and wife Portia De Rossi are giving vegan a go! They've made the decision and are really happy with their progress. Portia feels the compassionate change was the right one.
"We just made that shift in our lives. The benefit of it is weight
loss. For her more than me. Her body responded to it very well. It is
amazing. We are just both very happy. It feels like such a compassionate
choice. We are such animal lovers, why stop short of cows and chickens?
It didn’t make any sense."
And De Rossi admits she and her wife have
been working towards becoming vegans since their very first date.
"When Ellen and I first got together I was wearing fur and
Ellen was wearing very expensive Italian calfskin leather. She was
giving me a hard time about wearing the fur and I said, ‘Why is a fox
any more important than a cow?’ "We took that idea and went all the way
with it. We are doing what we can."
Photos by WENN.com
shocking news, two lesbians that are vegitarians...wow!
LMAO!!!!
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What a clever and completely intelligent comparison to make.
NOT.
I was a vegan for about 5 years but it was just way too hard. Plus the food that is safe to eat is expensive. Also I got hell from my mom and husband because they thought I wasnt getting the healthy amount of iron and all that. To be honest with you, I dont think I was either so finally one day I got myself a big hamburger and dug in!
There is NO WAY I can live without the proteins offered in meat. Sorry, I cannot do it. I have tried before. No thanks!
..and you're not the only one. If we gave up meat, all of us, in 3 generations we sees to exist. We will be killed even by a simple cold.
I think that's a little off. The majority of Indians are vegetarian, and going by the numbers (having a population of over 1 billion), I think its safe to say that you won't disappear.
Being a vegetarian is about supplementation. If you don't work out, its not too hard, but when I became a lot more active in my life, I had to make sure I was getting enough protein in my body. The shakes aren't too bad when you add juice or throw in some fruit. I have lots of lentil soup, nuts, tofu and soy.
They're vegetarian because they have nothing else to eat, but they eat a lot of chicken and fish and eggs, goat milk, goat cheese..when they have it. Indians are not a good example, you don't want to know the condition that they live in. I used to live in that region, besides a child expectancy to reach 20 is lower then in other countries. Lets not talk about Chinese...
It's easier than you've been CONvinced it is. Protein's a big-business scam.
See "Meat myth"
See "Protein Myth"
I'm 15 years vegan. 2 years ago I went:
RAW
80% fruitarian
I stopped supplements and powders
Why????
Because I learned even more truth.
Now I'm happier than ever. The truth set me free.
cease
Actually that's not true. If everyone gave up meat there would be enough grains and plant life to healthily sustain most third world nations. Hopefully with some luck you cease (not sees) to exist since you're thick as pig sh*t, ill informed and illiterate.
Nope. I've been Vegan 15 years. I had a cold 5, 7 and 9 years ago. I made it. Cold lasted 3 days; felt great after. But I don't get sick anymore. Hmmmm.
See "Meat myth"
See "Protein Myth"
That is a silly presumption. I've been vegan for 8 years and vegetarian for 7. I barely ever get sick. Vegans eat more fruits and veggies, which are rich in antioxidants, which keeps our immune systems up.
That is a silly presumption. I've been vegan for 8 years and vegetarian for 7. I barely ever get sick. Vegans eat more fruits and veggies, which are rich in antioxidants, which keeps our immune systems up.
If you realy tried, you'd have found out.
See "Meat myth"
See "Protein Myth"
Any bad effects on a veg diet are detox.
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I think I like them a little more every day, haha.
Animals were made to be eaten. Cycle of nature and all. If every living thing never got consumed then the natural world would not function properly. Plants, animals, insects, etc.
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Agreed!
IDIOT!! Animals are BRED intentionally so they can be killed for ugly fucks like you, that is not part of the cycle of life when humans interfere. Do your research dude!
in raw nature you are also part of that food chain and need to be eaten. You should not receive any medical care for any diseases because only the strongest species must survive. If you cannot have children-it should stay this ay, your offspring is not needed. this is why we are civilized, and should worry not only about human animal welfare, but also about other creatre welfare. if not agreed go back to the woods and start hunting.
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I need my meat and dairy. Lucky for me I do. I was in a bad bicycle accident 2 1/2 yrs ago. I was thrown off of my bike several feet. I was a mess but no broken bones. I was told I had the bones of a much younger person. I am soooooo glad I didn't read that book Vera read. I have since heard from several people not to read it.
Fingers crossed the next accident puts you out of your misery since your an idiot and have no concept of what it is you are saying.
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You certainly can live just fine vegan - with proteins and vitamins and whatnot -- but it's not as easy, of course, as not being vegan. Everybody's body handles things differently. I'm not vegan, but I'm pescatarian. A couple of times I thought I'd give beef a try but I just feel awful after - not a allergy but my body just doesn't want it in it. I also cut out eggs and milk whenever possible. *shrug* I think we should just find what kinds of food make our own body work the best, and stick with those. Which are of course going to be different for everybody.
Vegan food isn't guilt free or blood free. A lot of small animals die in the process of farming. The idea that one can exist in this world guilt free without harming any living creature is naive at best.
it is not about completely irradicating something. It is about being MORE compassionate and MORE aware, and contributing LESS to animal abuse and pollution.
Ah, the holier than thou attitude that doesn't help. I do agree though that the meat industry can use an overhaul.
Death happens. Nothing lives forever. But the suffering in farms doesn't have to happen.
And ...... Humans started eating meat in the ice age, because of lack of food. It's no longer nessessary.
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Any diet that causes a mental breakdown just isn't worth it. I can go without meat, I just load up on the veggies, but I honestly don't think I can go without eating cheese or yogurt. And there is no way I can drink a cup of coffee without a little bit of milk in it.
Most people do not have mental breakdowns over being vegan. If they do they must have been pretty weak minded to begin with!!! Good on you for being vege. Being vege is a huge step towards helping the enviroment and the animals.
It is not hard to be vegan. It is simply hard for anyone to drastically change their lifestyle. I am vegan and feel great. I would NEVER go back.
I'm a vegan. I dunno, I honestly don't think it's that hard. It's a lot less difficult than I thought it would be. But, of course, I've been a vegetarian for 17 years (my entire life) and I guess being vegan really isn't that different.
i adore them for that! i was vegan too. but it's expensive...because sometimes i wanted things that were with eggs and so on...like cookies. and i needed something else to stop my hunger for sweets. so i bought very expensive sweets from a special store for vegan food and it's very expensive. too expensive for me. i am vegetarian now...and i don't trink and buy milk or eggs. but if this things are in food...which i have to eat...then i don't say no.
Vera is this posted by you or one of your writers? I know you openly have some writers that contribute to the site and can't always tells who is sharing a personal experience. From hearing you talk about cooking etc. in the past I can't see how eggs, milk, cheese etc. can get left out in the cold. So anyway, I'm confused : ) will you clear it up?
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I'm a pescatarian... I don't eat gelatin, mammals, birds, etc... just fish. I tried going without fish but I just needed more protein that I wasn't getting from soy milk, peanuts, beans, and other foods. I've never tried being officially vegan, I only drink soy milk because I don't like the taste of regular milk, but I find being what I am hard enough so hopefully someday it can be easier that way I can do it without examining everything I eat. I know that if it wasn't so difficult then more people would at least try it! Not eating meat at least has made me feel so much better so I hope that everyone can at least give it a chance. It it also so much better for you because cholesterol comes from animal products so without them you lower your cholesterol... this is just one of the benefits!
It IS possible to be healthy and vegan. It is also possible to be healthy, vegan, and athletic. My fiance and I have been vegetarian for 5 years and vegan for 3, have had bone density scans recently and have bone densities of 15% higher than the average for our age, and we are both active. In fact, he runs marathons regularly and his pb (whilst vegan I add) was under 3 hours.
I think the arguments for/against veganism aren't to do with being healthy/being unable to do all the things you want to in life. It comes down to whether or not you actually give a shit about other living things on this planet. Animals sadly ARE made to be eaten, that is the sick way of the farming industry. Whether or not they SHOULD be bred in such a way is another matter all together.
I would suggest that those of you who have arguments against vegetarianism/veganism along the lines of 'it is unhealthy and stupid and you cannot run or live and the whole world would die out if we all went vegan' should do some reading.
Good first point of call? Juliet Gellatley's The Silent Ark.
Be informed in your decisions, instead of going through life ignorant of the damage and pain that is a consequence of factory farming and your consumer decisions.
Go vegan. It is the only logical conclusion.
"Go vegan. It is the only logical conclusion." No, actually it's not.
I am not a vegan, because I eat meat occasionally. But I find myself body likes veggies better than meat. Many of my friends are chefs and its an insult not to eat anything they prepare. Also, when I was in college, meat was very expensive. My hair, teeth, body, skin looks better because I took meat pretty much out of my life.
not their fan....but wow I love this idea. I am still eating some animal food such as dairy, eggs, fish. I will be slowly removing it from my diet. I have been meat/poultry free for at least 10 years and I do not miss it at all, in fact I do not even handle any flesh at all. I have said ''no'' to fur long time ago. I still wear some leather, mostly shoes (I am a shoe maniac), but I will be making smarter/better choices. It is all in works.
Just a random note: I've always wondered... who's the wife and who's the husband in such r/s?
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Just a hunch, but I think they are both the wife.
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:) perfect answer!
There is no such thing as husband and wife in a lesbian relationship. There are just "wife" and "wife". Same as in any homosexual relationship.
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Jeez, why would they ever do this?! Yeah I like animals but the great thing about what we call them is 'animals' which implies that they are beneath humans, so part of the food chain! It is a personal choice- but I like my cheese and my chicken so I'd never go vegan or even vegetarian.
actually, "animals" does not imply a lower position in a cast or food system. humans are members of the kingdom animalia.... which includes all animals. Please know your facts before making absurd comments.
idiot Isis. Humans are animals as well, go back to school and learn that. Who gives a flying bird about what you like. Get off that weed youve been smoking and start thinking.
I find it interesting how the dumbest people, closest to animals in their intelligence, seem to find the biggest difference between humans and other animals. Do you need to keep telling yourself that you're smarter than they are?
i can understand why some people goes vegetarian and all but frankly if you look closely... that's stupid! sorry if i offense but if everybody stop eating meat just to be compassionate (talk about an absurdity) then cows and others animals have absolutly no more necessity. people have farms and all just to satisfy people demand and they will stop that as soon as it's no more bringing money. so... no demand no animals. that's simple.
on the other hand, the vegan thing is the most stupid thing ever! what's wrong with drinking milk and eating egg? can you explain me what harm it does to animals? so you have it once again, if a cow doesn't produce meat and milk then you don't need cows and it disappear. think about it!
99% of you should stay off these boards and get a fuckin education. I am glad there are still numerous morons out here in America cuz all you degenerates are keeping me in a job. I am a veggie border line vegan and I am also a personal trainer, nutritionist and life style consultant. I never push my views on people but I do give them the proper tools and education so they can see exactly what they are putting into their bodies. Eating meat in 2009 is absolutely unnecessary. To those who say you cant work out with out eating meat...where do you live? Under a fuckin rock? I am a hard core lifter and I have the body of an 18 year old, my skin is perfect, my hair is amazing, I am never hungry and when I eat I make CONSCIOUS decisions. Pull your heads out of your asses people, the ignorant ones are always the fat ones these days. Saying that if we stop eating cows then we don't need them? Is that a joke? How the fuck do you think plants grow? Try manure. That comes from cows. How about leather shoes and crap? Are you serious? I have to go I feel the stupidity rubbing off on me. America Is in great great danger when the fuck did the idiots take over. Maybe you all should try compassion sometime it would be nice to see a happy smiling face sometimes instead of fat assed bitches everywhere I turn. Yuck.
Im a meatgeterian!!! ;)... i eat everithing... i think its part of nature!!
like big fish eats small fish, and small fish eats smaller fishes... and tiny fish eats plants...
BTW i dont understand WHY vegeterian people can't drink regular MILK... or butter.... yogurth
it's SO natural? you are not killing the cow!! to make that....
can someone tell me why?
animals eat animals because they don't KNOW any better and that is what they are inherently supposed to do. I have given up red meat, chicken, and pork entirely and I have never felt better (physiologically and spiritually). My skin is clear as well and I have MUCH regular bowel movements as a result of increased raw fruits and vegetables and CLEAN protein sources (nuts, legumes, etc). Meat eaters are basically eating feces in one form or another. Grow up and EDUCATE yourselves people. The world is just as much for the animals as it is for us.
um vegetarians CAN eat yogurt and butter. you are thinking of VEGANS which don't eat any food made from animal products. depends one what definition you are going by but most vegetarians I know still eat dairy. EDUCATE YOURSELF and you won't sound ignorant when you post.
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Can vegans eat Honney??? (i just want to know)
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I can't speak for all vegans but my friend who is vegan doesn't eat honey.
As a vegan, I do not consume honey. However, I must say that I didn't go vegan for the bees and never would have - no offense to them. I just think that if people are going to learn to stop treating other species as inferior, talking about bees might not be the best place to start. Honey is basically stealing from bees. But I met one vegan who said that he would choose honey over refined sugar because sugar is refined with bone char. I respect that.
and why vegans can't eat any food made of animals??
i mean you don't hurt a cow to get milk....
can someone tell me?
Of course you hurt a cow to get milk. Milking a cow involves treating the cow like a machine made purely for human use. It's called exploitation. Baby cows don't get to drink milk - instead they drink their mothers' blood - because humans are busy drinking the milk. But hey, why don't we milk humans if it "don't hurt a human" to milk them? After all, human milk is healthier for humans than cow milk. What's really bizarre is that humans are supposed to be weaned after a year or so of life. Instead, we're never weaned, we go on drinking milk until the day we die. Meanwhile, baby cows are weaned from day one and never see their mothers again. We live in a sick and cruel world. Welcome to humankind.
they are trapped in pens and milked on a strict regimen. it's not humane and does not allow the cow to roam free. also they pump the cow with antibiotics, etc
Ellen and her Lady make a very good point there, why stop at cows and chickens??!!
I am really shocked at how many people here do not understand veganism. Check out the American Dietetic Association's position paper affirming that a vegan diet is a safe and healthy diet for all people at any stage of life, including childhood, pregnancy, old age, and for all types of people, including athletes. It's not hard to find this information, so please do some research and refrain from judging something you don't understand.
If you want to know why animal products are unhealthy, read The China Study by T. Colin Campbell. Animal proteins are linked to cancer, heart disease, diabetes, MS, and many more diseases. The reason we don't hear more about this is because of the influence of the meat and dairy industries (the dairy industry supplies much of the nutrition education in our elementary schools, a clear conflict of interest), and because people think that Americans just won't do it.
If you are worried about protein -- most Americans eat 2-4 times as much protein as they need to, and beans, nuts, and soy are all great sources of protein. B12? Eat fortified cereal like Cheerios. Calcium? Soy milk and green vegetables like Swiss Chard and broccoli. Actually, high animal protein diets cause calcium to leach from your bones, so dairy does not guard against osteoporosis -- actually, it can cause it.
Cutting animal products out of your life is actually not that hard. There are replacements for everything, soy milk and almond milk are delicious and healthy, you can put soy creamer in your coffee, and there are whole books devoted to vegan baking. Veganism does not have to be difficult or expensive.
As for the ethical reasons not to consume dairy and eggs -- the dairy and egg industries are unnatural. Chickens are kept in small cages without enough room to move and are treated as machines. As for cows, they only produce milk when pregnant -- just like a human. A cow never needs to be milked, and their milk is intended for their babies. Dairy cows are artificially inseminated to have babies every year so they will continue to produce milk. Their babies are sold for veal and after they stop producing milk they are killed for their meat. So, if you are against eating cows, you can't support the dairy industry. I also want to point out -- cow's milk is 22% protein and human milk is 7%. They are vastly different and cow's milk is the perfect food for baby cows, just like human milk is the perfect food for baby humans. Humans weren't meant to drink cow's milk.
As far as honey, some vegans eat it, some vegans don't.
I hope that was helpful, and I encourage everyone to do some more research!
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I have to add that I think statements like "I couldn't live without meat" or "I have to eat cheese" are lame excuses. I love donuts, but I don't eat them because that's gross. And anyway, vegan cheese and ice cream are tasty.
LOL! That's brilliant. Normally, when people say they love cheese, I say, "That's what I said." But maybe it's more effective to say, "I love cheese, but I don't eat it because that's gross." Hahaha.
They're licking each other's poontangs, so obviousy it's ok to eat seafood right?
Nothing can replace meat or dairy. End of debate. Those who choose to be vegans are just stupid and missing out big time. ALl the more for the rest of us!!
I'm not missing out. You, however, are missing out on endless fields of compassion and love and kindness. You are missing out on a chance to change the world. You are missing out on all the friends you'd make in the animal kingdoms. You are missing out on delicious vegan food. You are missing out on liberation for all beings. Man, you're missing out big time.
have fun with raging colorectal cancer when you're 50 or 60
I do not understand what is so "HARD" about going vegan. There are plenty of people who have very little money by American standards who are vegan. Let me tell you something... it's "hard" to be gay, too. Twenty-five percent of all homeless youth are LGBT individuals. Why did they choose to live true to themselves when they could've hidden and had life "easy"? Because, actually, hiding was probably HARDer for them than living a lie. And, for me, eating meat and eggs and dairy would be HARDer than veganism because I would feel so guilty that THEN *I* would be the one having a nervous breakdown. I had a freaking nervous breakdown when I watched the animal farm videos. I cried. Yes, just like you, buddy. I cried more than once. I felt traumatized. You know, that feeling where the world twists so far around into the realm of suffering that it stops making sense. I'm okay now.... now that I'm vegan and working to promote veganism. Now there's a reason to live. But I know something's wrong when you feel traumatized more by having to leave a restaurant than by the thought of contributing to so much pain and suffering. I felt bad for four days because I had to refuse a bloody piece of Japanese candy... do you know how pathetic that is? I realized shortly thereafter that actually I don't need Japanese candy and I was just being selfish. I don't need to eat at restaurants either and usually avoid them (did so before going vegan anyway). I went to a restaurant with nothing vegan once and felt like crap until they offered me a vegan salad....... but you know, I don't blame veganism, buddy. I blame the terrible system to which the restaurant belongs, I blame ignorance, I blame history... but there's really no point in blaming anyway. Just change it. You have the power within you. Have some courage, have some self-discipline. That is, if you still care. Kudos to you for giving veganism a go. But please come back. Each one of us who practices veganism is building a better world. And get this... I am using my own live to advocate and promote veganism in this world... one day, you will see that it's easier because of the work of today's vegans. You'll come back either way. Peace and love to you and the world!
Being vegan is really easy. You do have to open your eyes and see the truth that the industry is hiding away from you so they make more money.
Try a 30 day vegan challenge offered by Toronto Veg Association at veg.ca and see for yourself!
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