Reader Poll: Let's Talk About Nadya Suleman

My cyber friend David from Pretty on the Outside sent me over this picture last night and it got me thinking. My circle of friends are entirely against her decisions and some are hoping the government steps in and takes those children away. Others think that this is all about attention for her and her obsession to be Angelina Jolie. And a few more think it's all about the money.
What's your take on Nadya Suleman? Do you feel sorry for her? Do you think she is the only one to blame for the situation? I mean, what about that doctor?! Will those children be ok if they stay with her? How will she ever be able to afford to raise them all?
She has a new website asking for donations. Is this something you would consider donating to? I looked at it and almost sorted through my old clothes to send it along, but then I thought I would be feeding into the problem. I don't know. My only issue is - despite the situation being utterly out of hand at this point, there are still so many children that need help in that household.
Let's discuss.













610 points
I feel sorry for the children she has already and the 8 babes she brought into the world. I do not feel sorry for her. The Dr that implanted her should be held responsible! I will not donate to her, or her cause, my donations will be better served elsewhere. The family will be getting so much $ now they won't miss mine. Something seems to be wrong with her. I am no expert and I don't like to judge others but there is clearly something amiss.......
300 points
What makes this all worse... infertility, ivf etc is not well understood by those that have not had to (thankfully) experience in it. She's giving everyone lots of wrong impressions about IVF transfers. Embryos are usually not implanted, they are transferred via a catheter and it's up to them if they embed into the lining or not. This Dr uses some device he created to actually inject the embryo into the lining. A normal RE (reproductive endocrinologist) would NOT transfer 8 embryos from a healthy young woman with no fertility issues other than blocked tubes. 2 is the common #, with 3 being the most transferred.
In some older women that have poor egg health or are poor responders to the stimulation they will do a few more because the chances of all taking are so slim.
There are guidelines for this, her RE completely ignored them.
I hope that people realize THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
Wow, thanks for that info! I just assumed that "transfer" meant the same thing as any other IVF process. Transferring 8 is excessive.
When I first saw her on TV I thought OMG she kinda portrays Angie J...wow. Now I know I was not the only one thinking that. Even though there is really not much comparison. I really feel she put herself in this position, knowing that she would not be able to afford all these children, she sees how all the other mothers with multiple babies get media attention she saw her 5 minutes. She saw that the world is vunerable when it comes to babies/kids. She knew that she would get help from the public. Now she is asking for money..this is so riduculous. I hope everyone sees what she is trying to do and let her suffer. She did not even think about her mother. Her mother is the one raising the other six, how could she possibly handle all of them by herself.
Children are always a blessing and God put them here for a reason. But I hope the mother of these beautiful children really ends up doing it by herself so she can see how selfish she was for doing this. People please don't send her any money but basically we are anyway because of taxes..her being on welfare.
she looks like a caricature, not Jolie. also she looks more like Alanis Morisette or Pete Burns. By looking at her you can immediatelly say she had a plastic surgery done. and that is not a compliment, surgery should not be someting you see when you look on someones face.
The children are innocent. The doctors are way at fault! Fertility doctors should look at income, housing, and mentality. I mean all these doctors where looking at were dollar signs and a semi pretty face! The repercussions of this is America has to pay for these kids, the kids will not fill love and will be raised by the system and in turn be wild and uncontrollable. I think what this boils down to is that Octomom doesn't feel love and has some mental issues!
You r so right! Just like you have to go thru all that stuuf to adopt, the same shoud go for the fertility patients simply because there is a possibilty of mutiple births
I think the best thing to do is make the fertility clinic pay for these children. That will show all the others to make better judgments!
That whole situation is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that the doctor put 8 eggs in her. my friends sister is going through invitro right now and the doctor is iffy about putting 2 in her! There is no way that woman can raise 14 children on her own. why anyone would want to do that is insane. how could you show each child enough attention and be a good parent? I think it is pathetic she is asking for a hand out. It's not like she didnt know she had a really good chance of having 8 babies along with the other 6. and someone should slap that doctor.
3420 points
He actually implanted 6, but still.... stupid doctor.
I think she did it for the fame, addiction to babies, the money, all the free stuff she thinks she's going to get. Look at Jon and Kate Gosselin. They just bought a 1.3 million dollar house. Let's see her top that!
personally i saw gosselins show a couple of times and kate gosselin is a low life. she is always out for freebies, she is a control freak, she cannot even speak to her husband properly....i do not like that woman at all, oh and btw all her children are very spoiled.
I do not care for Jon and Kate either. I was being VERY sarcastic when I brought-up their 1.3 million dollar house. They are definitely con artists in my book.
TOTALLY AGREE!! I would respect Kate somewhat if she were honest and *open* about just how much $$$$$$ and freebies and HELP she actually gets. But no, she still plays on like she's doing it all on her own. So I have no respect for that greedy woman. And yes, her children are going to end up as attention-craving little brats!!
3420 points
The story is a little too freaky. How can an unemployed mother of 6 afford fertility treatment? Doesn't it cost at least $20,000? There is more to this story than what they are willing to let on. Those poor kids are not going to have a decent childhood. She should give them up for adoption, it's the only way. Otherwise, how would she manage? Her parents are the ones who are financially as well as physically taking care of those kids now. But they will eventually grow old and not be able to handle childcare. It's sick.
8590 points
That is what I have been thinking this whole time. How the heck does she afford the treatment. She had the eggs frozen, which costs a storage fee, plus the implantation. It is at least $10,000 each time you do an implantation. Insurance can cover up to 80% but still.....
something is not clicking in her story. i wonder if her mother and the sperm donor are all into this fraud. mother keeps complaining, but she is an enabler, also she sold photos of her daughter to media. all her complaining is done for the sole purpose to have people have pity for her and for children so that they would donate. sperm donor is probably lazy ass and he is simply not married to nadya, so that nadya can keep receiveing all these benefits and aids as a single mom, and then she shares with him. some couples do not marry on purpose and women hide fathers names to get benefits as single moms. but they live together with these men.
2895 points
She has not always been unemployed.
8535 points
it's a sign of the times......she needs out prayers and those kids are going to need a lot of money and time
While I think the whole thing is outrageous, I am completely disgusted by the way some people are reacting to her. She is still a human being. She probably has some deep seated psychological issues. The fact that she is receiving death threats is just unconscionable to me. Who am I to pass judgment on her?
Will I donate? No. Do I think those babies would be better off being adopted? Yes. Do I hold the clinic doctor responsible? Not 100%. Although he implanted the numerous eggs; he surely can't be held responsible for nature dividing an egg into a set of twins. And I'm sure he didn't count on all of them taking. How rare is that?
I would like to know where the money came from for the ivf and the plastic surgery though.
Ok i disagree that the doc isnt responsible for all eight b/c he didnt implant eight. He as a doc knew there was a possibility that the eggs could split. This was wrong in so many ways. There is mentally something wrong w/that lady and I don't trust her w/these kids. No matter what we think she is going to get a lot of money al this press she is getting and she's prob gonna have a reality show.
The media is saying she received $165,000 from a workman's comp. settlement. That's where the money came from. Her mother didn't even know she received any money. Didn't see a dime of it. All of it went to plastic surgery and the ivf.
we do not know if her mom recveived the dime or not. as far as i know her mom is in on this to make a buck as well.
This woman needs to get her head checked. I do not care how much love she can give these children there is no need for someone who cannot even support the six she already has to try to have so many more. The fact that her hospital bills alone will give CA residents such a burden...let alone taking care of her fourteen kids for the next decade. This is just sick! How can a single mother who cannot take care of the children she has now without government help expect to be able to support the additional ones! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I think she's a little off, but as far as money scams go, I don't dislike her as much as that slut auctioning off her virginity.
I think that this situation is beyond crazy, but those children need help now. I think whatever money people donate should go into a trust for them, something there mother can never touch. I also think that this situation and the situation between the girl auctioning off her virginity are completely unrelated. Do I think we are a society whose moral code has taken a nose dive? Absolutely, but I think people's real aversion to the virginity girl is that they didn't think of it first.
people should not donate a penny in this situation. these kids are 100% her responsibility.
It's not their fault that they were born into this situation. They need help and I realize we're all suffering from the current state of this economy, we could all help a little bit, maybe not to this woman, but certainly to those in need. No child should grow up in a shelter or in the system. It's all just so sad because they really are sweet tiny little babies.
at least the one auctioning off her virginity isn't hurting anyone (except maybe the poor lowlife who wins the auction), but there are children involved in Nadya's case, which takes it to a whole new level.
2615 points
I think she is not the only one to blame. first what the doctor did was completely irresponsible. aren't there any rules which forbid to implant more than 3 embryos at a time?
the other party to blame are her parents. with her obsession for angelina. the whole plastic surgery + kids she can't afford and even more, this woman was in need of psychological help. and what about other people at this hospital. did nobody besides her doctor and her know about the whole situation. i don't get it. I don't think they will be able to take the kids away just like that. i really don'T think it was all about the money for her. i mean...honestly that would have been quite risky. i mean what if there where only 4 kids oder 3 who would have survived in her womb. there would not have been such a buzz about it and nobody would probably have cared. so
i really think this woman has a serious problem with herself. the kids and angelina thing are just the result of her problem... the visible things.
i read something about that she may get her own reality show. what y'all think about that?
5355 points
all of the multiples make millions from these births which is a huge motivator. looks like she's on her way to doing the same. the doctor's motivation was probably the $$$$ as well. once she's "made it" wonder if everyone will still be so appalled. love those drawings!!!
I think that doctor committed malpractice. He is up for review at the California Medical Board, and yes, he could be held responsible for the eggs dividing into twins. As a doctor, a fertility doctor at that, he would know that the chances of twinning in a woman is over 30 increase dramatically. The standard practice is to implant NO MORE than 3 eggs in a woman her age, and he implanted 6 - double the standard. It was perfectly foreseeable for the eggs to have twinned. Nadya is another problem in and of herself. While what she did is beyond irresponsible and a drain on our society's taxpayers (aka, US!) people like the Duggars are sensationalized for having large families. Now that a single woman has done it, she is being crucified by the media. It's a double standard for women, and further, because Nadya is one of the last women who should have added 8 kids to her brood, she makes all women look bad.
That is why the doctor should have made sure that Nadya was psychologically healthy enough to handle 14 kids, and 8 newborns. I hope they find him guilty of malpractice and revoke his license. And for the sake of the kids, I hope Nadya gets the psychological help she needs.
The difference is the Duggars can provide for all of their children. Before the TV show, they were doing perfectly fine. Taxpayers will have to provide for Octomom's children.
8980 points
Not only do the Duggars support all their children, they are debt free and all those children came naturally. She never had IVF so in her situation it really was a "GOD" thing. People who get IVF and then pull out the selective reduction crap of "its abortion, not God's plan".. that is all BS. IVF is not part of God's plan either.
Soooo true. When they (multi ivf mom's) state that about how they would not do selective reduction because that would be playing God and that is not Gods plan. Nooooooooo God's plan was for you not to have children!!!! You played God when you had them mixed up in a petri dish. I also agreen about the Duggars, they should not even be mentioned in any of this.
The Duggars don't completely support themself. Maybe now they do, with the money from their TV show, but before most of the things they owned by their church and they owed them a lot of money. Just like this woman and her 95 children, people are interested in the freak show aspect of it. In the same light I think having so may children is irresponsible. How will you send them to college? What kind of life do you want them to have when they leave your home when you haven't given them enough tools and proper education to do something with their lives? If you can fill your own school bus, you need to stop procreating. At least their kids won't feel burdened to take care of their parents when they're older. Each kid can take day a month.
It's funny you should mention the Duggars. My 9 year old daughter asked the other day "what's the difference between the mom with all those babies and the Duggar lady?" I am sure there are some similarities, but I think it's not a fair comparison (and I can't stand the Duggars, so I am no apologist for their lifestyle, either). They didn't use artificial means to have their children. There is a dad. He works, and he helps with the care of the children. The children are staggered in age, which means they have different levels of care they need. Not 8 babies that need basic care all at once. I think both families (octuplet and Duggars) are crazy, but the situations are different in my opinion.
For all of those that feel the doctor should be held responsible think about going to your doctor and having him or her tell you that they would not allow you to have a child because your house isn't big enough or your car isn't big enough. How about if the doctor said they wouldn't help you have a child because they didn't think your job was stable enough or they just didn't think you would make a good parent? Do you really want a doctor to have that much control over your life? I think that everyone should leave this woman alone. If you don't want to donate then don't. She made this decision and she will have to live with it. There are tons of parents who only have one or two children and don't care for them properly and the state doesn't intervene. Before you judge, walk a mile in another persons shoes.
Very well said....
I agree with you that the doctor shouldn't be able to say if you can or can not have children, but to implant 6 embryos when she already had six children at home is irresponsible.
111657 points
Get real. A doctor who says no is not "controlling your life". Just a person refusing a job. (Which is what this doc should have done.)
If people are going to nitpick her, they need to take a step back and look at the big picture. How many women live on welfare and continue to pop out babies like it's no big deal? In my line of work (social services) I see it all of the time. The only difference between the women that allow themselves to continue bearing children they can't support and this woman is that she got it done with a bang and a doctor, versus slowly over time.
I also work in social services, so while this situation has been sensationalized by the fact that 8 came all at once, it's not uncommon for some of my cases to have 8+ children either (while 14 this young is extreme, I don't see that happen that often...) and some of these women start very, very young. So while I have personally decided not to contribute to the octomom, I still feel sorry for her situation- whether she brought it on herself or not, she's not the only one feeling the impact of it. I've also made a personal choice not to judge her or any of my other clients that walk through the door because it is a very slippery slope like others have mentioned. I don't want my doctor deciding what I can and cannot do, I don't want my insurance company imposing their moral ethics as to what medical procedures they'll cover, etc. I don't have the answers to the problems, so i'm not going to be pointing fingers as to what this mom or others have been doing "wrong"
330 points
I have one ...SAD!
1350 points
I think it was all about the money. A multiple birth this massive just screams cash in. I wouldn't be surprised if the doctors were in on the pay out, and an agreement was sorted out beforehand. A birth of this magnitude would (and has) grab all the headlines and bring in media outlets dying to pay for the scoop. It's all about the cash. It doesn't help either that she's kinda loopy and has this Angelina fixation. losethatgirl blog
8770 points
I think she did this all for money. I wouldn't donate anything to her. I saw a pic of her yesterday at Blockbuster buying several wii controllers. I am glad she is spending her donation money wisely. Seriously, is she just going to park the older kids in front of the tv. I think she is too selfish to take care of the kids herself. She leaves that mundane task to her poor worn out mother. This women brings in a lot of money in disability payments yet her mother says she doesn't contribute any of it to her or the kids. This womans father is over in Iraq doing something in the war to make some money for all of these grandkids his selfish daughter brought into this world. Yet she found $100,000 to pay for IVF treatments. I also think she has an Angela obsession. I would love to see all of her kids taken away from her and put in loving homes. They didn't ask to be brought into this circus. The doctor is another story entirely. Yes he should have his license pulled. He should have seen that he was dealing with a crazy lady. I don't know if it is possible for me to hate this woman anymore.
She is obviously disturbed. All the operations to change her appearance and you can see clearly that she is trying hard to be Angelina Jolie, the way she speaks and everything. I doubt that a sane woman in her financial condition will just say...oh i have 4 babies, lets have some more! THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DID SHE HAD MONEY FOR ALL THIS?? WHO SUPPORTED HER FINANCIALLY? And why would i give her money in the first place? For more operations?
This multiple birth ivf thing has to stop. These babies face so many risk factors. I look at them with those tubes down their throats and want to cry. Who knows what problems they may face in the future health and developmental. Why should we manufacture babies so that a woman can experiance pregnancy? There are so many children out there in the world now that need a family and love, but we make new ones out of thin air instead because we are a selfish race, new one with heath issues and families so big they can't possible get all the nurturning they need. This woman says over and over that her dream was to be a mother, if that was true and she had the mothers love in her she would have looked at adoption. I was sad to see that Ann Curry never even brought that up with her. I am also sad to see so many people say they would refuse to give any money, these babies are here now and need all the help they can get, they are innocent.
I am amazed at all the hate! Everyone has issues. I agree she has big ones but who are we as a society to throw stones at her. She needs treatment, she needs mental help, but how about we help her be a good mom. These kids have a mom and there mom has problems but she is and will always be there mom. People take drugs, steal, cheat, do crazy things but some turn there life around because good people beleive in them and help them get better. Let's stop all the hatered and let the peoeple who want to help her be a good mom do that without judgement. The kids deserve it.
She is disgusting! Its not the doctors fault! She is the one who wanted multiples! Anyone knows there is a 99% of more then 2 babies when you get fertility treatments. She is the one who wanted all of these babies! The doctor did what he was paid to do! Anyone can have as many babies as they want, BUT it is so selfish and disgusting to PURPOSELY have all of these babies knowing you do not have enough money or enough help to care for them! I think all she wants is publicity and money! She knew going into this she didnt have enough money! BTW how the f did she have all that money for the treamtments? Something fishy is going on here, and no its not just her yina!
785 points
*sigh* I think it's a very sad situation and in the end, there aren't going to be any winners. She obviously has some mental issues going on up in that head of hers. I'm probably not going to donate to her just because I have my own 3 I'm taking care of....but on the same token, I think if there are people who would normally donate, and are not donating now just because she's crazier than the common loon....well, that's just sad. It's her children that will suffer. I also don't know if the children should be taken away and put in different homes.....how terrible would that be, to be pulled away from your siblings? I just don't know. I don't think there's an easy answer for this one.
from everything she has said, and what her mother has said. i think she started doing this to punish her mother. she claims she has to have all these children cause her mother only had one. so what does she do? she ruins her mothers life. she even stated in public that she hasn't been to her house or seen the other six in a month and that all the difficulties her mother is having with this aren't her fault. also i think this is abuse. i have birth defects that could have been totally avoided (like these children) the difference is that my Mother wasn't as informed (i was born in '62) and single parents were taboo. i still have a hard time dealing with this, i am the one sentenced you know. perhaps if she had had to face the difficulties in life that are added on by this as i have she wouldn't have done it, perhaps. she seems awful selfish. she better enjoy the time she has visiting her children occasionally at her mothers house while she can, cause of course her children are going to feel worse about her than i do my own mother.
so i guess to sum it up, i am all for supporting this idiots mother NOT HER!
I think she definately wants to be Angelina Jolie, I think she is crazy and did this all for publicity. She has some type of mental problem that she needs to have taken care of. Her children should be taken from her so they can all get the proper care they deserve and she should be commited so that she can get the help she needs.
1590 points
I will not donate, but if I lived near her I'd take her a casserole and offer to babysit (with a team). :)
8770 points
I like the casserole idea.
Big time Mental Illness being supported by some quack who assisted w/invitro. This is now producing a new generation of welfare receipients...I mean, what sort of values is she going to instill??
8770 points
My feeling is if she couldn't afford all these kids without begging for money she shouldn't have spent $100,000 on IVF treatments. There is something wrong with this picture. I think any money that is given to help the kids should have a 3rd party making sure the money is being spent wisely, because I think the mother is too selfish to spend it on the kids. She would spend it on a tummy tuck or something for herself.
5355 points
maybe her tummy tuck will be donated just like kate gosselin's was. for these women that go to these extremes...it just seems that the children are a means to an end for them...the manipulation comes from pullling on the public's heart strings...after all no one wants to see a child suffer on any level. imo.
29835 points
When I saw the footage of the babies in the hospital and saw how tiny they are it made me so upset..these poor sweet innocent babies are suffering because of their irresponsible Mother.. I wish CPS would step in and do something.. there is no way they will ever get the attention they deserve and need living a 3 bedroom house with 14 kids and an absentee sick in the head mother.
2345 points
I wouldn't donate at all if I were living in the States. But yet, there are 14 innocent children who didn't ask for anything. I confess I'm scared because from what I hear/see/read, I don't trust her...
I too believe the Doctor, and the clinic itself, should not only have to pay the expenses, but also pay for the total education of these children. Watching the woman, she is obviously unbalanced (to say the least) and clearly has no idea how much it cost to raise a child. I am trying to wrap my head around a Doctor actually doing the second, third and fourth??
This is a classic example of taking a good thing, and abusing it. And another thing, I think the press and public should put her on "ignore". Stop the publicity now. I am disappointed that the interview was even done and televised. Everyone says she wants money and fame? Well let's not give her that. I find it all really sad, I am embarassed for her.
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8770 points
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!
Ace.
8770 points
I just read a statement released by some church that pretty much said Nadya has been spreading lies about them helping her. They have never heard of her. Nadya said this church was getting her a house with a bunch of nannies to care for the kids. So I guess that was a lie. I am sure we are going to need a scoreboard to keep track of this womans lies.
I also just read that the doctor who gave her the ivf treatments has another woman in the hospital due to give birth to another 8 and she is 49. Madness.
550 points
That picture is hilarious! OMG! I have to admit I think this woman is bonkers. I don't think she believed she would end up with 8 babies after IVF. But here she is. Now that those babies are here I hope for nothing but the best care for them.
you know, i am a mother. Although, i don't agree with what the mother had done and yea, Holie-can't stand her, but hey the children are innocent. if i were her, i don't know how i will cope, i might have done the same thing as she has. apparently she didn't ask for 14 children, i mean well, she said expecting at most twins instead of octopulets. I'm definitely not siding with her, but i would donate for the children's sake. Try putting yourself in her children's shoes, at least they will have a better life for a little bit of our help. talk about taking away her children as some of you have, you can guarantee that they will be put to loving homes? i'm not sure i'll opt for that. she's still the mother afterall. i can understand the hate here, but i can't understand why people are so mean, especially that lady who interviewed her, cuz you know what it's her children, she is the mother. she decides, not us not anyone. do you think it will help being mean and insulting? i doubt so. the children are innocent no matter what.
What hurts me is that there are people out there (like me) who have lost a child and don't have any and can't afford IV and then there are people who get 14 children!!! What it boils down to is life isn't fair, this lady is whacked in the head, and these poor beautiful innocent childrenare gonna suffer. Too sad, it breaks my heart!!!!
:( I am sorry. You are right. My sister is married to someone who would make a wonderful father and they have been trying for a year. She can't afford a lot of expensive fertility treatments either. It isn't fair.
disgusting, I am not watchng any interviews with her.
I feel badly for her six kids she already had, as well as the 8 she just popped out....I can never understand why people who cannot financially or emotionally handle more kids continue to have them. Pay attention to the ones you already have! I think it's disgusting how the Octo-mom is going on and on (through her publicist of course) about what a wonderful mother she is! If she was a wonderful mother she would have been focussing on her 6 kids and helping her parents with expenses to provide for them!
I cannot in good conscience give this woman any of my money or attention. Recieving endless donations and giving interviews is only giving this woman what she really wants - justification for her selfish ways, and attention.
Are the doctor's responsible in this as well? Absolutely, they acted beyond irresponsibly. But so did the mom. Sadly, the only true victim of this entire scenario are 14 innocent children who didn't get a choice about who their mother is.
This whole situation makes me so angry. She knew she was having multiples and did nothing to prepare. the photos of her house show no extra cribs, no diapers, nothing that shows she even had any thought that she would eventually ahve to take care of these kids. Her other 6 kids live in a filthy disgusting home while she spends who knows how much money on IVF and plastic surgery. I actually thoguht about donating to the children but hte problem is . . .how would we know that the money would actually go to the children? THere needs to be a court appointed trustee in charge of all the money collected for this nutcase to ensure that seh does not continue to use money that needs to go to her children for her own selfish purposes. I also think CPS needs to do a serious investigation into the home life of these kids and make some tough decisions. This whole thing makes me sick.
I honestly believe that she didn't intend to have 8 babies at once! Her doctor is to blame for this - he is the so-called professional and voice of reason. Nadya is disturbed, and obviously craves an inordinate amount of attention. Her only child theory, does hold some validity with me, since I was married to a man who was an only child. His mother treats him like her husband, and I have heard from relatives and former neighbours that he was so lonely that he would run away when he was 2 years old with only his diaper on, to a family home about 60 feet away with 4 children! There was a hole in the soul of my ex, that no amount of money, comfort, children of his own, recognition, material goods could ever fill. He came from a wealthy family, who gave him tons of stuff to compensate for his loneliness. It didn't work, and the nightmare lives on. Only children are delusional, selfish & believe the world will be won over by their bizarre desires, just like their mother was. I truly pray these children will be adopted by deserving families, who want to be parents for the right reasons.
WRONG WRONG WRONG she is so selfish. she should be shunned or pay for this senseless excess, but unfortunately the ones who will suffer will be all of her children.
it sickens me that this person has burdened the system and she had HELP to do it.
now people will rush to help her clean up her immense mess .
what about the single moms all over the country , busting themselves to make it work, and they get no help or recognition?
its horrible.
family services must get involved and take them. that will help the kids.
Visit her website, and tell her what's on your mind!
http://thenadyasulemanfamily.com/
1530 points
I'm livid at the whole situation. She admitted in that interview that she struggles to take care of the six she already has. She said we struggle but we're okay. So, she goes to her doctor who implants six more when she can barely take care of the first batch. Add to that, she lives in a two bedroom house with her six kids and two parents...where is she going to put 8 shiny new babies? Once the kids reach a certain age, boys and girls will need to be in separate bedrooms. How will that work? Boys in one room, girls in another, Nadya on the sofa and the grandparents get to sleep where? In sleeping bags on the kitchen floor? It has to be crowded in that house. Where is she even going to put all the stuff a baby baby needs? Cribs, strollers, the layette, toys, high chairs.....the list goes on. She spent her settlement on plastic surgery and IVF when she could have supported her family for a bit while she got her act together. I think the woman is certifiable and should not be allowed to try to raise those kids. I say try because we all know what is inevitably going to happen...they will get taken away. Eventually. I think the doctor has to share in the blame but Nadya is to blame even more. She's just not rational. I honestly think she did it so everyone would jump in and 'help' her. Sure, we'll build you a home, supply you with free diapers, formula, clothes, toys, even cribs. I honestly think she thought she would have to pay nothing towards their care. The whole thing just makes me sad. Not only has screwed up these 8 little lives, but the other six's as well. I say take the babies, adopt them out to loving homes and sterilize this woman....NOW! And as someone else said, my heart goes out to all 14 of her children but I will not be donating to her cause because I imagine the money wouldn't even go for their care.
690 points
I have a lot of opinions on this. Most of them have already been brought up on here, so I won't go on and on about how irresponsible she and her doctor have been. But I will say that everything she has said has been a contradiction. What I have the most issues with is if you can afford multiple IVF treatments, no matter how you came up with the money, you shouldn't also be on foodstamps. Perhaps you should take to money you saved for your treatments and pay for food first. Instead she selfishly took money from the state that could have gone to a family that needed it, and took her money and spent it on an unnecessary procedure. Its disgusting. Do you know how many people don't qualify for food stamps because they make too much money yet struggle to keep their heads above water? They have NO luxuries and live paycheck to paycheck. Yet this woman can afford a $20,000 procedure, but then gets aid from the government. It beyond upsets me. Yes, this does reflect a growing problem in this country, and hopefully this will light a fire under everyone to make changes and reforms in how we deal with welfare.
I can understand couples who have problems getting pregnant and end up with multiples do to IVF - but she has six other children under what the age of 8 and now 8 more babies and not even with a husband to support her what was she thinking, i would definately not donate may be it is the best thing that child welfare step in...she is not going to be able to support them even with the help from her parents....why should we......maybe next she will be looking at TLC for a show..........and with the whole Angelina Jolie addiction just creepy......needs her head checked i think....
690 points
Oh and she talks about how she is there for her children and not do harm, but does she know that fake nails are very bad for preemie babies? Yeah so every time your "loving them" and stroking them, your actually harming them. Way to go mom!
Whats the differance between her and al the single jobless women on "welfare" that continue to have children should there be a limit to how many children the can have?
those women laid on there backs to make babies and this woman paid to have someone implant here with babies. should there be a limit?
or what about the women whom have multiple abortions but keep getting knocked up just to have another abortion on tax payers dime. should there be a limit?
this stiuation just sheds so much light on so many different topics nobody knows what to think.
Whats the differance between her and al the single jobless women on "welfare" that continue to have children should there be a limit to how many children the can have?
those women laid on there backs to make babies and this woman paid to have someone implant here with babies. should there be a limit?
or what about the women whom have multiple abortions but keep getting knocked up just to have another abortion on tax payers dime. should there be a limit?
this stiuation just sheds so much light on so many different topics nobody knows what to think.
I feel the worst for the children, they had no choice in her decisions and I'm not certain why the parents didn't step in to stop the madness considering they gave up so much to help her. They could have stopped helping her after having one child. If she loves kids so much she should have considered being a teacher or finding work to be around children but it's clear she is not in her right mind. She wanted her own army. It only makes sense she is the way she is and has done what she's done with her parents help and encouragement - even if they say they are against it. These procedures and hospital bills are not cheap and I think after one you'd need to get a serious job to support the child - not just the costs of medical bills to actually have one. Clothes, food, school, college??? It's not free.
No parent wants to see their children suffer, at any age, but they should have considered the grand children and asked her to get mental help before actually having them - they didn't have to support her - they should have taken her to court to have the kids taken from her if she wasn't able to afford to support them - her parents ended up broke because of it. Why should the kids suffer? Who cares about her and her parents, the kids are the concern - bottom line. She can go be crazy elsewhere but those poor children are around this media circus and stress she has caused them in their lives. It's not fair to them that they all suffer because of the decisions unfit and unbalanced adults made (doctors included)
The kids do not deserve to suffer, they do not deserve to feel alienated from society because of their mother. If the courts can't argue her stability to find them better homes, I worry for the future of each of those children she has. She has obviously taken it upon herself to make the decision but it's not only her consequence. She needs medical help, but who's going to pay for that too???
Would I offer donations? I would - but maybe in forms of clothing, diapers, toys, books, educational support and most definitely condoms and birth control for all of them as soon as they reach the age. God forbid any of her crazy passes down to them. She's clearly crazy - it's not crazy to want that many kids (I would love a lot of kids myself) but it's crazy to actually have THAT many and not be able to afford to have them and give them lives that would be of quality. I don't doubt she loves them, there's just no doubt that she can't support them.
God bless the children in all this.
300 points
LIAR~~~The Church she has been air raiding about DENIES any involvement,support,charity,fundraising that this kidcrazypychomaniacwhackjobselfishmonster and the only recorded contact is the saint mother herself enquiring bout childrens missionary
and the stalker like frozen stare haunts me, imagine the damage that womans face is causing the innocent pawns (children) but to think the fate growing up being spawn from such diabolical measures....
but i guess when they are old enough to read / search www / educate themselfs / mature into the depths of their existance
will be....
..................with kisses from the CandyQueen..................with kisses from the CandyQueen
300 points
8 products of selfish & inhumane acts made by 1. the bipolar alien mother worshipping god for not blessing her with ability of natural conception so she can abuse her dellusional mind and body with help from 2. the downright dirty doctor, who should be stabbed with his own thermometer in the heart 3. any of the other pissant exuses of human beings that let such travesty unfold.
oedepous rex anyone?? cyclops???
............with kisses from the CandyQueen
300 points
Also I read that 3 of her kids (not the octobabies) are disabled, so she gets some money (besides the food stamps) for that too.
I am a Masters Counseling student and would want to investigate about some possible Munchhausen Bi proxy because the chance that 3 out of 6 kids have a disability seems high. Also after having one, or maybe 2 disables children and wanting more wouldn't you have some testing done and maybe stop using the "donor" sperm again.
It is sad for the children, they didn't ask for this. As far as the mother, I think the whole thing has been a scam since before she got pregnant and there a probably several individuals involved including the doc. It is almost as if she has made having babies and fertility treatmenst a mockery. I suffer from infertility and would love to do invitro but can't afford it, how did she? BLEGH! Very, very sad for those little ones!
Firstly HELL NO i would not lift a finger to help this heffer. She had 6 babies to begin with and she saw a money making machine, she is not married has no man and wants more children, exactly what was this doctor on when she said sure i'll do this for you. What the hell is this world coming the doc was selfish to take on her dame case no she actually has the nerve to pop a help me out web page donate what she didn't think about that when she going through this process who the hell does she think she is, she better suffer the consequences of her actions, the sad thing by us saying no its the innocent children that suffer so people are in a catch 22 because her decision she has inadvertedly asked everyone to be involved in this because we who are normal are thinking fo these idsi and not her hand me money scheme, i say take them kids away from her and give her zero.
Her body, her choice. It sucks it is using up tax payers dollars, but if isn't her, it's only someone else that you wouldn't have thought twice about. I can't believe ppl would even suggest taking her kids away - obviously no idea bout the bonds of motherhood. By all means CPS should be aware of the situation (like everyone else) but if she's not abusing the children, why even raise the idea. Bloody cruel. People don't HAVE to donate to her cause...she's simply got a website there for those who want too. So sick of ppl putting down everything in this world. If you don't like it, don't read it. Much bigger and better things to worry bout then her & her family. Let her learn the hard way.
i dont think she did it because she wanted money. carrying a child is one of the most difficult things a woman can go through and carry EIGHT must feel insane. if you paid me 10 million bucks to carry 8 babies i probably wouldnt do it. i think needing the money was a consequence of what happened; an afterthought.
i think the root of the issue is that she may have psychological problems, the need to feel like a woman and a mother, because she nearly wasnt given the opportunity to be one naturally, and her rationale might be, 'i'm gonna have as many children as i can, for as long as i can, cause i nearly wasnt given the chance.'
i dont think she was, or still is conscious of the weight and severity of the consequences of her actions, i dont think she really is at fault as i doubt she herself can tell clearly anymore.
the main blame lies with the doctors, who wanted her money without assessing her mentally and assessing her situation properly.
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